Comments on: Christless Christianity and Pietism http://www.lifeingraceblog.com/2009/02/christless-christianity-and-pietism.html living a dream we don't deserve Tue, 07 Feb 2012 15:19:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Trudy Royston http://www.lifeingraceblog.com/2009/02/christless-christianity-and-pietism.html/comment-page-1#comment-10106 Trudy Royston Thu, 04 Nov 2010 22:43:13 +0000 http://www.lifeingraceblog.com/2009/02/christless-christianity-and-pietism.html#comment-10106 Hi Edie, I am on an extended visit to spend time with my work-away husband. I have so much free time, it is a 190 from my life at home. Besides cooking for my sweet husband and working on "any ole project I feel like", I have been enjoying your archives. I appreciate your willingness to thoughtfully reflect and share your views...and recipes. I am the mother of 7 sons and I have been surrounded by testosterone for many, many, many years. I love hearing about your adventures in homeschooling with your daughters. I am so happy for you too, to be in that place of appreciation (not perfection), cherishing (and some days just surviving) them for who they are right now. What a blessed gift! Sincerely (That's Northern for "loves and hugs"),Trudy Hi Edie, I am on an extended visit to spend time with my work-away husband. I have so much free time, it is a 190 from my life at home. Besides cooking for my sweet husband and working on “any ole project I feel like”, I have been enjoying your archives. I appreciate your willingness to thoughtfully reflect and share your views…and recipes.
I am the mother of 7 sons and I have been surrounded by testosterone for many, many, many years. I love hearing about your adventures in homeschooling with your daughters. I am so happy for you too, to be in that place of appreciation (not perfection), cherishing (and some days just surviving) them for who they are right now. What a blessed gift!
Sincerely (That’s Northern for “loves and hugs”),Trudy

]]> By: Darcy @ lwm3b http://www.lifeingraceblog.com/2009/02/christless-christianity-and-pietism.html/comment-page-1#comment-1523 Darcy @ lwm3b Thu, 05 Feb 2009 18:43:00 +0000 http://www.lifeingraceblog.com/2009/02/christless-christianity-and-pietism.html#comment-1523 I loved this post. As someone who almost never writes about religion I can promise that I find the 'holier than thou' types to be intimidating.<br/><br/>For those of us who are squatting securely and humbly at the bottom-most rung it's often nothing but righteous indignation I feel from those climbing above me.<br/><br/>And do they make me want to be more like them? More "churchy"? More "christian"?<br/><br/>No. They are like magnets at opposite polar ends. Rather than herd the stragglers to believe, they repel others away with their offensive, holier-than-thou attitudes. <br/><br/>Afterall, if that's how very Christian Christians behave, well then... nothankyouverymuch. The message is lost. They end up driving away would-be believers. Repulsive rather than magnetic.<br/><br/>I believe if people spent less time trying to show everyone how holy they are, proving how many verses they can recite, how much more piety they possess than me... people wanting to find a clear, unobstructed path to Him would have a much easier time.<br/><br/>This is my first time here. Your blog is beautiful - both in design and content. I loved this post. As someone who almost never writes about religion I can promise that I find the ‘holier than thou’ types to be intimidating.

For those of us who are squatting securely and humbly at the bottom-most rung it’s often nothing but righteous indignation I feel from those climbing above me.

And do they make me want to be more like them? More “churchy”? More “christian”?

No. They are like magnets at opposite polar ends. Rather than herd the stragglers to believe, they repel others away with their offensive, holier-than-thou attitudes.

Afterall, if that’s how very Christian Christians behave, well then… nothankyouverymuch. The message is lost. They end up driving away would-be believers. Repulsive rather than magnetic.

I believe if people spent less time trying to show everyone how holy they are, proving how many verses they can recite, how much more piety they possess than me… people wanting to find a clear, unobstructed path to Him would have a much easier time.

This is my first time here. Your blog is beautiful – both in design and content.

]]> By: Michelle http://www.lifeingraceblog.com/2009/02/christless-christianity-and-pietism.html/comment-page-1#comment-1522 Michelle Thu, 05 Feb 2009 11:50:00 +0000 http://www.lifeingraceblog.com/2009/02/christless-christianity-and-pietism.html#comment-1522 I agree 100% with you, it is through Christ alone that we are saved not of ourselves or works but by His blood and grace. I agree 100% with you, it is through Christ alone that we are saved not of ourselves or works but by His blood and grace.

]]> By: Kristi http://www.lifeingraceblog.com/2009/02/christless-christianity-and-pietism.html/comment-page-1#comment-1521 Kristi Thu, 05 Feb 2009 06:08:00 +0000 http://www.lifeingraceblog.com/2009/02/christless-christianity-and-pietism.html#comment-1521 Edie,<br/> I'm so glad I came here tonight and read this. We were talking about this tonight at our mid week service. How Christ died for our sins and no "works or services" (and ladders!!) are going to make anything different. <br/> I think that is what had attracted me to our church. There weren't those "levels" of members. We were all equal and wanting to learn about Jesus and the Bible. I think that is why my husband felt so comfortable right off the bat. I'm so thankful!<br/> Thank you for always posting such awesome things! Also, I am giving serious thought to homeschooling. Thank you for writing about this as well! :)<br/>Kristi Edie,
I’m so glad I came here tonight and read this. We were talking about this tonight at our mid week service. How Christ died for our sins and no “works or services” (and ladders!!) are going to make anything different.
I think that is what had attracted me to our church. There weren’t those “levels” of members. We were all equal and wanting to learn about Jesus and the Bible. I think that is why my husband felt so comfortable right off the bat. I’m so thankful!
Thank you for always posting such awesome things! Also, I am giving serious thought to homeschooling. Thank you for writing about this as well! :)
Kristi

]]> By: Dana and Daisy http://www.lifeingraceblog.com/2009/02/christless-christianity-and-pietism.html/comment-page-1#comment-1520 Dana and Daisy Thu, 05 Feb 2009 03:28:00 +0000 http://www.lifeingraceblog.com/2009/02/christless-christianity-and-pietism.html#comment-1520 wow, this is so well written. so true. wow, this is so well written. so true.

]]> By: KS http://www.lifeingraceblog.com/2009/02/christless-christianity-and-pietism.html/comment-page-1#comment-1519 KS Wed, 04 Feb 2009 20:17:00 +0000 http://www.lifeingraceblog.com/2009/02/christless-christianity-and-pietism.html#comment-1519 "Man's chief end is to glorify God, and to enjoy him forever." --Westminster Shorter Catechism <br/><br/>(I know, it's Presbyterian.)<br/><br/>I wonder if the me-centered preaching started when people were falling away from church because they didn't see its relevance to their lives. <br/><br/>At Bible study last night we reviewed homework having to do with being anointed like David. I was the only one who questioned the idea that anyone has been anointed since Pentecost. But maybe I'm the one with a misunderstanding. “Man’s chief end is to glorify God, and to enjoy him forever.” –Westminster Shorter Catechism

(I know, it’s Presbyterian.)

I wonder if the me-centered preaching started when people were falling away from church because they didn’t see its relevance to their lives.

At Bible study last night we reviewed homework having to do with being anointed like David. I was the only one who questioned the idea that anyone has been anointed since Pentecost. But maybe I’m the one with a misunderstanding.

]]> By: Jessica http://www.lifeingraceblog.com/2009/02/christless-christianity-and-pietism.html/comment-page-1#comment-1518 Jessica Wed, 04 Feb 2009 19:31:00 +0000 http://www.lifeingraceblog.com/2009/02/christless-christianity-and-pietism.html#comment-1518 As I have been reading your posts on Christ, I have often wondered what Lutheran's believe the meaning of life is. I am sincerely curious because I have always been taught life is a 'test'. That we were brought here to be tested and do our best to return to Him some day. If it isn't about us climbing that ladder and trying to become like Him so we can return to live with Him again, than what is it? That is a huge question I know, so maybe you can email me or somthing? Thanks for your thought provoking posts, the wheels are turning!! I absolutely love these discussions and hearing what everyone else believes. :) As I have been reading your posts on Christ, I have often wondered what Lutheran’s believe the meaning of life is. I am sincerely curious because I have always been taught life is a ‘test’. That we were brought here to be tested and do our best to return to Him some day. If it isn’t about us climbing that ladder and trying to become like Him so we can return to live with Him again, than what is it? That is a huge question I know, so maybe you can email me or somthing? Thanks for your thought provoking posts, the wheels are turning!! I absolutely love these discussions and hearing what everyone else believes. :)

]]> By: Liz http://www.lifeingraceblog.com/2009/02/christless-christianity-and-pietism.html/comment-page-1#comment-1517 Liz Wed, 04 Feb 2009 18:43:00 +0000 http://www.lifeingraceblog.com/2009/02/christless-christianity-and-pietism.html#comment-1517 Really beautiful thoughts here Edie. It's a lot to wrap my mind around, but I agree with you on this. Really beautiful thoughts here Edie. It’s a lot to wrap my mind around, but I agree with you on this.

]]> By: Mandi http://www.lifeingraceblog.com/2009/02/christless-christianity-and-pietism.html/comment-page-1#comment-1516 Mandi Wed, 04 Feb 2009 18:09:00 +0000 http://www.lifeingraceblog.com/2009/02/christless-christianity-and-pietism.html#comment-1516 Edie, Wow. This hits really close to home and is gonna require more thought and study than I can give it right now while my 2 little ones play at my feet. Your posts like this are always enlightening and appreciated. I have never heard of the term Pietism and will definitely look more closely at myself and the things I do. Thanks! Edie, Wow. This hits really close to home and is gonna require more thought and study than I can give it right now while my 2 little ones play at my feet. Your posts like this are always enlightening and appreciated. I have never heard of the term Pietism and will definitely look more closely at myself and the things I do. Thanks!

]]> By: Molly http://www.lifeingraceblog.com/2009/02/christless-christianity-and-pietism.html/comment-page-1#comment-1513 Molly Wed, 04 Feb 2009 15:22:00 +0000 http://www.lifeingraceblog.com/2009/02/christless-christianity-and-pietism.html#comment-1513 WOW! What a great post! I so needed to hear that this morning.I always try to help others but often find myself judging others for not being as "holy" as me. God is always showing me how to witness to someone that is less fortunate as me or that is going through something and needs his guidance through me. I also am going to try that stew and cake you made. It looks scrumptious!! Have a great day!<br/>~Molly P WOW! What a great post! I so needed to hear that this morning.I always try to help others but often find myself judging others for not being as “holy” as me. God is always showing me how to witness to someone that is less fortunate as me or that is going through something and needs his guidance through me. I also am going to try that stew and cake you made. It looks scrumptious!! Have a great day!
~Molly P

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